If you’re not already attending a Frak Party — or hosting one! – join us here for the GWC online ‘party. Or hell, even if you are watching with friends, post their comments, too! There’s room for everyone, though you’ll have to bring your own snacks…
And, since we record the podcast right after the episode, we’ll check in here first to see what you had to say in real-time. Sweet.
Holy frack, it’s the season finale already! First off, I’d like to say thanks to all of you who’ve made this already great show un-freakingly-believeably-great for Audra, Sean and me with your great comments, theories, emails, and calls.Â
Secondly, if I may, I’d like to offer some advice about watching tonight’s show:
As you’ve heard via the podcast, I was really pissed after last season’s finale. I was angry for a lot of reasons, but mainly I was mad that a full year had passed in the lives of characters that I followed very closely (and held dear) without me seeing it. The chief was married? Why wasn’t I invited?Â
But after a while — even just a few weeks — I began re-thinking my initial reaction. As I started to wonder how the “resistance” would work — and how each of the characters would participate — I started to see how this storyline would add great depth to the entire cast, and I started to like it.
Eventually, after I saw what we described to Rolling Stone as “the best moment in on-screen sci-fi since the return of the Millenium Falcon at the end of Star Wars” during what many of you described as “the best hour of sci-fi TV ever,” I came to see the occupation on New Caprica as a truly brilliant story arc.
My advice: when you watch tonight, be prepared for some major shocks. I’ve successfully avoided the spoilers, so I have no idea what’s going to happen. I have some ideas, and I know you have ideas — because I’ve seen a lot of them via Submit a Theory this week. But one thing’s absolutely certain: whatever happens tonight, it’s going to be big, and it’s going to be controversial in the fan community.
I thnk it was Patton who said, “In war nothing is impossible provided you use audacity.” That’s good advice for the creators of BSG who from all reports have been fighting an uphill battle this season, struggling to expand to fill the new time slot. We’ll likely see some of that audacity tonight.
If I remember correctly, Patton also said, “Do not take counsel of your fears.” That’s good advice to the rest of us in responding to tonight’s episode. Last season I was afraid that we’d just lose that year. I was afraid we’d lose the vigor of the show’s premise with everyone stuck on the planet. In the end, those fears were unfounded.
My point is, whatever happens tonight, remember to give it a chance. Before you crank up your blog or podcast and begin firing shots that’ll be recorded for posterity, give it a chance to sink in.Â
Now I just have to take my own advice. Â
See you here tonight!
I would just like to point everyone to this recent interview with RDM. It says there are spoilers, but it’s not true. They talk a little about last week’s episode. Great interview!
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2007/03/24/battlestar/?source=whitelist
I’m not even going to check that one out, Joe. I managed to stay spoiler free so far, so I’m not risking it.
OK everyone, see you on the other side of the iTunes release. I hope they get it out quickly this week.
Right on, Chuck! I came to BSG via seasons 1 and 2 on DVD. Season 3 was the first time I couldn’t just change discs in the player to see what happened next. I was forced this season to “live” with certain plot twists, to fume over them, to be confused by them, to wonder where the frak we were being taken. Now that we’re at the end, I spent the last week or two rewatching season 3 on iTunes, and I was reminded how ‘tight’ of a story this actually is–and what is more, that it is not misplaced faith to trust in the ‘powers that be’ of BSG. What seemed questionable in the midst of the season now makes perfect sense when considering the season as a whole. I’m not only ready for a cliff hanger–I’m ready to get kicked off cliff and into a 9 month free fall!
Can’t wait for tonight’s ep. It’s going to be frakin’ great. Nothing will be the same after this finale. We’re in for a doozy, and I can’t wait for the bomb to drop.
I’m with you Pike. I have managed to remain spoiler free and my speculation continues to run wild. See everyone later tonight.
I had Rich’s problem too. The first ep I ever watched was A Measure of Salvation. I then did a marathon viewing of the entire series in about two days. Now I have to suffer in real-time like everybody else.
Can’t wait!
I just sat through a back-to-back viewing of Season 3 yesterday (initiating and bringing a friend up to date-yes, another new fan!), and I came to the same conclusion as Rich: BSG is much much tighter than it seems when you watch the episodes week-to-week. RDM & Co. know exactly what the frakk thye’re doing.
That said, I can’t wait for the episode to get posted on iTunes. They’d better not have us waiting around like they did for Occupation/Precipice…. I don’t know if I can stay off the internet long enough to not get any spoilers!
Catch y’all on the flipside, have fun tonight!
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my vote for rosilin pic i cant wait ill be at the party
This blog post will reach 500 comments at least, which I’m sure is some kind of record for comments on a simple blog pot, and quite respectable even for a forum. =D
Chomping at the bit. Can barely type my outline for a debate I have tomorrow. =P
at gateworld we have one with 79640 posts
Hey all! Just checking in on the pre-episode hype.
I’ve got to be totally honest, I frakkin’ psyched out for this episode.
I’ll see everyone back here at 10. Can’t wait. *Twitch*
2 hours left and i have my snacks and drinks ready so see everyone back here when the shows over.
I’m pumped for the episode too, I read the spoilers though, which was a HUGE, HUGE mistake. I’m warning all of you, do not read them. It will ruin everything.
Damn, you guys are so lucky ! We put out clocks forward 1 hour here yesterday for summer time. If only I could have skipped a couple of days I would be watching the finale on download by now. Gotta keep away from all podcasts and posts until Tuesday before I can join in the praise of what is bound to be another shocking, surprising, frustrating, nail-biting finale ! Don’t spend all night chewing over the episode, get it uploaded ! I got bandwidth twiddling it’s thumbs over here !
Oooops ! Forgot to mention what a great job you guys do with the podcast. You reach far and wide – required listening for me here.
It’s about an hour till air, and Scifi.com’s front page has
“Who are the Final Five Cylons? Learn the Shocking truth on the BSG Season Finale”
If that’s a total lie I am going mail them a box of poop.
Seriously.
Brian CC
Spoilers… Curseth thee, Willpower!!
All you East Coast-ers are the luckiest of the lot of us! You’ll be the first ones to watch, and can discuss everything here real time. ^_^ I’m on the West Coast; just under 4 hours to go! Can’t wait to read everybody’s thoughts here and listen to the _amazing_ podcast.
Whoo! I’m a spoiler virgin going into this one. This is the only BSG site I’ve visited for almost 2 weeks now because of wanting to not get any spoilers.
And I’m calling it- They all find out that they’re daggits or that Boxey is the Cylon god. Maybe both.
Don’t blink! This has got to last us until the fall DVD (?) movie. Ahh. It’s like telling Tigh that he can’t drink for another 7 months. I’ll become a murdering, raving looney.
This is a total guess as I have NOT read any spoilers. I think the final five cylons are Rosilyn, Helo, Bill Adama, Anders and Starbuck. And the radio is going to pick up a broadcast from earth, like the original series when they picked up a broadcast of the Apollo moonlanding.
So is there anything definitive about an off season movie and whether next season is the last and only 13 eps long?
Ziggy, there are a couple sites that have confirmed the movie, and someone also posted that they ordered the last nine eps for next season, so if all is correct, then next season will be a full one.
Ziggy, I completely agree about them picking up a broadcast from Earth. I believe that’s what Tigh has been hearing.
Has anyone else rewatched the episode “Bastille Day†lately? I did and found a few things:
1. Near the end, Adama tells Lee that he is “talking like a lawyerâ€. In hindsight this is hilarious.
2. Roslin tells Lee, in confidence, that she has cancer, but to not tell anyone else because it would “erode hopeâ€. Lee agrees, and she says she has full confidence he will remain silent on the issue. This makes his betrayal during the trial all the more tragic.
I wonder if thats what was meant by “someone will find earth”. By finding a radio signal they will prove that earth exists and they’ll know the direction to go in.
The seconds seem like hours waiting.
Ziggy, Why is Tigh hearing the music when there’s no radio?
Ziggy…that is a good idea!
You can say that again Cav. It’s 9:50 and I’m already about to burst with excitement….
Gah! *Twitch*
Retro…
Becasue “Its in the frackin’ ship” LOL
That is a good question, becaused it seemed Anders heard it too.
I hear ya Dan…what are we gonna do for 10 months in the wait too!!!
I hear it too, don’t you Cav?
Frank,
Its in my model ship…its in the fracking model ship!!!
Hey anyone out there know where I can find a model ship of the new Pegasus???
A little off subject I know, sorry.
Will somebody turn off that FRAKKIN MUSIC?! Craaaaaap…
6 minutes for us East Coasters. Don’t forget about the extra five minutes of show, everyone!
I haven’t turned on the TV at all this week…I wanted to take NO chances on catching a spoiler to ruin the surprises in store…just a few more minutes till the show!
I for one will be watching DVD re-runs and visiting GWC like a fiend.
…9:55. Last commercial break in the pre-Galactica show, whatever it is. By the looks of it, I’d say it’s a pretty crappy one.
Cavatar, did you hear about the BSG special movie event thinger? It’s a flashback to Pegasus during and after the initial cylon attack. If there aren’t models now, there will be soon enough.
Yeah, maybe Tighes a cylon and thats why he hears the music. Although I don’t know why cylons would hear music.
Of all of the characters, Tighe being a cylon would be the most interesting. I’d love to see how he would deal with that revelation.
Dan I hear ya there…
three minutes left!!!
I’ve come to the conclusion that Limpkin is not Limpkin, but is in fact a con-man who has taken the indentity of Limpkin. Kat can’t possibly be the only one who did that.
I CAN’T WAIT.
OMG!!!! Is everybody ready?! Only a few more minutes!
*Jumps around and claps like the fanboy he is*
End Dresden Files, END!
2 MINUTES! This is going to be hard to watch. Its the first time in a while that I am not watching it delated on my Tivo. Won’t be able to skip the commercials
Joe…
I did not know it was going to be about Pegasus, I thought it was going to take place 40 years before the attack…that would be cool if there was.
Woo! Very exciting! This must be the most comments for a frak party before the show has even started! Here we go!
party time…Galactica style!
And the Lord(s) said:
It begins…
Here we GO!!!!!
Here we go gang..
IT’S STARTED!!
Its in the frakkin’ ship! Here we go!
Let’s ROCK
I hope we don’t declare war on a country or something tonight.
Let’s ROCK! Here we go….
so in the preview, it was commander Adama who utters the words “we are cylons” Did you hear that?
No opening theme like last week.. too much info to get into this hour.
How you doin?
Oooh.
Bill’s got a little cut there.
Dare I say this….that is almost kinky!
Hey, they’re in high school! Giggling over the phone first thing in the morning….what a crazy couple the Admiral and President make!
LOL – Chief singing the song. Least we know he hears it.
The noise sounds like electrical current…
Music = beacon left behind by the 13th colony?
Bill and Laura sittin’ in a tree…they’re so cute together.
So thats 3 for those keeping track
Chief hears music
Man, I hope GMC comments on that little scene between Adama and Roslin.
TORI AND ANDERS!! WTF
IS IT!?
I guess there is not such a thing as mourning the dead in the Galactica world. I’m sure everyone knows that his wife just died.
It sounds Hindu…
Tigh, the Chief, Tori, and who else hears the music???
I really want a Romo Lampkin Galactica Law and Order show if the Caprica series washes out!
why is Sam fracking Tori???
Anders has an interesting way he mourns….maybe some of Starbuck’s “vices” rubbed off on him.
I hate Lee…I cant believe he has gone to the dark side
Anders hears it
I am starting to like Lee as a lawer.
Looks like losing Kara hit Sam harder than I had thought. What was it that Sean said about Anders being a good-hearted, stable dude?
Here is the Chief following some noise again.
So Racetrack looks like she is offical the new Starbuck.
thats five who have heard the sounds…. :^(
Yup, Racetrack is the new “pilot w/ a ‘tude”
Bah Humbug!
Sam doesn’t fit in the shoes of a Viper pilot well. I’m tellin’ ya, he’d make a non-pilot officer, or better than that, a marine.
Is it just me, or is this the calm before the “storm” I mean its kinda boring.
If the Chief is a Cylon…that would be why Boomer and him never were able to have a child.
I think it is implants (inserted on NC) that allow them to hear – not that they are cylons. That is someone else’s theory – I’m just agreeing atm.
Tori, Sam, Chief, Tigh I only have four that hear the music.
so is it only 4 ppl who hear the melody???
in the original series, it was a radio signal that help them find Earth, this could be the twist, but why just those five, unless they aren’t the only ones. It would suck if they were cylons. That makes the Chiefs son a hybrid.
yea only those four, so who is 5???
But Tigh heard the music and he can’t be a cylon, he’s too old, he was around during the original cylon war.
I agree, Dan.. Anders doesn’t strike me as pilot material, much less officer material – too emotional and too mutinious. He’s use to being in charge would have a problem following orders that he didn’t necessarily agree with.
I don’t think Lee has changed at all in this new role. I’m just waiting to see where Zarek is in all of this.
I thought Sam likes being on top of a Viper more than being in one. lol
YES! The text message! The worst one yet!
BOOOOO for text voting!!!
I vote D for tonights poll-Who the Frak cares its a lame poll question!
Text question isn’t that bad this week. Still a stupid concept though!
I’ve had a crush on Racetrack ever she she discovered….well, everything. So glad she has more to say these days than, “Holy Frak, look everybody, there’s some ________!”
is it me or are the questions getting worse???
I have to admit I respect Baltar’s commitment to having a verdict….
They’re crazy to think anyone will txt a, b or c.
um what was that all about?
Gaius back at the door…. How is laura and athena connected
this will be good…
LOL….that was great…”your both feaking out at the same time!”
Holy crap…They mixed blood…they’re connected now.
I don’t see the place on scifi’s site to cast my vote for C – 3rd party to be revealed…
Renegade.
I remember seeing something about that somewhere. How in the original series, Galactica located Earth by picking up a radio signal.
It’d be interesting if something similar happened in this series.
there all having a joint vision 3some?
the theory of having implants wouldn’t be a bad plan
Athena, Six and Roslin all have the mission to protect Hera. What’s going on?
Uh oh.. Gata’s on the stand… Baltar is a dead dagget…
Felex is lying!!!
Zack said “3some” hehehehe
Oh great…he is gonna get off >.
Anybody see how pretty Roslin’s hair was in the Opera House vision?
Daaaamn, that was stylish. Pretty too.
That quote was amazing
GAETA! For all that I loved you…now you go and lie on the stand.
Butterfingers Awwww love it……..
and yes I did Tehehe
Felix isn’t a lair, why is he doing this
Felix Butterfingers! Hahahaha
Wow, he’s lying on the stand.
I hope Tigh doesn’t space himself looking for a way to get away from the music.
I dont like that music business so far, reminds me too much of the last episode of “The Prisoner”. That was such a disapointment.
ok…why is Sci FI showing ads for the film Saw???
I love Gaeta. Great character.
butter’fingers. He called him buttedfingers. That man needs to expand his bad words vocabulary. I don’t think “butterfingers” offended anyone, or even made Felix feel bad.
Oooohh! Gaeta not being his usual boy scout type. Cool and collected on the stand… Interesting
Gaeta will regreat that when they put six on the stand and she refutes what he just said.
The episode’s only an hour five, right? They’re not really trying to resolve stuff too quickly, are they?
Wow! This court stuff got crazy. Clever bastard for lying on the stand. It was kind of what happened and they’re going to believe him before they believe Baltar.
For some reason I keep typing in “Batlar”. lol!
Wow, Gaeta lying to get Baltar convicted… Gaeta is not someone to fuck with.
“…You’re the one who tried to stab me through the neck– and you missed! Butterfingers!”
Classic.
Was Tigh’s qoute “There must be some kinda way outta here” a Jimi Hendrix referance?
But then craaaaap will hit the fan when the cylon(s)z attack and all will be forgotten…..for now.
Anybody else think that this current round of commercials came awfully fast? Must mean a long sequence somewhere in the future of this episode.
I could see Gaeta trying to kill Baltar, but not lying on the stand. He’s one of the few people that I thought had integrity (the willingness to commit murder doesn’t automatically take away his integrity, ya know!).
Saw is coming to Sci-Fi
oh crap this should be good with Lee
He is just putting Adama vs Adama again!
…
oh man, calling Lee to the stand…Badger’s the best lawyer ever.
HOLY SHIT!!! Lee is going to lie and redeem himself!
Wow… the Admiral’s about to send Lee shooting out of the nearest Viper tube, sans plane…
Lee might find himself in an airlock next season
No he isnt. He believes strongly in the law. He will unfourtunatly tell the truth.
Adm. Adama should never have been eligible to be on the panel in the first place.
Is one of the judges the guy who played Q in TNG?
John De Lancie? I don’t think so…
What??? Adm Adama wants to hear what Lee has to say??
Here is the healing between father and son…
Lee the whiner… “It was someone else’s fault!” Sorry, dude – but being the President means that you’re responsible for bad decisions.
ITS ABOUT TIME the pardon came up
BALTAR IS GOING TO GET OFF! NOOOOO!!!!!
Wow. Rousing speech.
Lee’s making some great arguments. I knew that pardon was going to come back to haunt them.
Of course, Lee was off planet getting fat while the others suffered.
“We don’t like you very much”
OH SNAP
Wow, Lee has some very good points. I did not see this coming.
Enough with the trip down memory lane. OH SNAP WAIT! Lee is redeeming himself now!
Where’s Tigh when we need a good “What’s this cccrrrrraaaaaaaaaapppppppppppp?????? ” ????????
Baltar deserves to swing but for only things that we as 3rd party spectators know, not what the characters would know.
Nicely done.
Damn. Lee really is his grandfathers progeny! This is a hell of a good closing argument (uh…except it’s not a closing argument, it’s testimony on the stand…but you know what I mean).
Good job, Lee.
Baltar is going to walk, i believe in this, Apollo is right
NO Baltar…I wanted him to testify
Unfourtunatly Renegade you might me right. This is some screwed up Craaaaaaaaap to me.
Some really nice acting by Bamber, his best yet. Convinced me.
he will testify… in the end
Wow, I would acquit Baltar with that.
Can someone find a transcript of that speech that Lee just made and link it or type it in a post? Thanks.
And when Baltar walks……..I say again – who is president? I believe it is Baltar – thus the hurricane begins…..
Rube…what we know is that everything Lee just said was right.
Lee for President!!!
That entire act was Lee talking. Wow. Lee is coming full circle and discovering himself. Wow. That was powerful and truthful.
its true, by law, he should walk
LOL
And he gave the Old Man props…
Free Baltar! Free Baltar!
Holy crap. This trial is a joke. How the frak did Lampkin get away with that? He’s good… too good. Baltar the traitor is going to get off? After letting the Cylons destroy humanity, stealing a nuke and giving it to a Six, and surrendering on Caprica? Why didn’t the prosecution mention how Zarek, the VP, refused to collaborate? Bah.
ive posted like 4 times in some other post damnit
again
holy crap
baby jesus, baby baltar
Bill! That move just got Baltar off. “Violence is going to ensue.”
It would have been nice to see Baltar squirm on the stands.. but Lee’s little stroll down self-righteous lane will keep him from the gallows/air lock.. plus it has the effect of exorcising his (Lee’s) demons…. “Captain America (Apollo) to the rescue once more”
They should have pulled a Nixon…recordings from inside the presidential ship.
there wasn’t any closing arguments… just Lee’s “testimony”
Whiny Lee just manned up and said what everyone else was thinking, but were too affraid to admit.
The wife still thinks that Baltar’s headed out the airlock, even though Lee made some nice points.
But, who’s the Cylon? The “music-hearers” are Anders, Tori, Chief & Tigh… maybe those four & Roslin?
I CANNOT wait to hear “Lawyer Bill’s” comments on that little play by Lampkin.
Lee was the only one that wasn’t self righteous…he even called himself out.
Nice trick to get Lee on the stand like that, but it seems totally implausible. The speech should’ve been delivered in closing and would have been just as effective.
But he has a good point. Taking into account the limited amount that the fleet knows about Baltar’s actions and the specific charges against him, he should walk. Can’t believe I said that!
not Roslin, no reason for her to be a cylon
Did you see the look Rouslin gave to the chick who brough in the picture to Baltar? They looked at each other, as if they shared something.
Alright boys and girls the moment of truth.
Isn’t what lee just said about a new system the same thing Zarek said when he was running for President
Here it comes…
Lee getting to testify is a bit odd; but being a former officer (especially a commanding officer) there’s something to say there. Looks like baltar is totally off.
3 to 2 , baltar walks i know it
HERE COMES
Baltar deserves the airlock just for giving a “6″ a nuke
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
snap
So who is the president now???
YEA LEE
the marchmellows i was eating just fell on the floor
haha like OJs trial both were really guilty
Whoa! Roslin shot Lee one HELL of a dirty look.
And holy crud… Talk about your courtroom riots…
Jesus… no wait, Baltar wept.
So where does Lee go from here???
the cell has cut corners
Romo don’t play that.
Guess who’s a prime candidate for assassination? I’ll give you a hint…he used to be the president.
he’ll get reinstated
Typical Baltar.. ‘what about me?’
“if i had killed the humans this i show i would have done it” by baltar
Cat metaphor, Lampkin ROCKS
sorry, Lee is going to be reinstated, not Baltar
Oh great, now I have a vision of Baltar with green curtains and a big old curtain rod behind his shoulders (channeling Carol B doing Scarlet)
No fracking way that was crazy.
OMG.. the cane!
So much for the cain!
More CYLONS!!!
HOLY MIND FRAK! Romo just walked away without his cane…and NO LIMP! I don’t trust a thing that dude says or does!
cane I mean
Adama voted not guilty
laua and Adama sitting in CIC k-i-s-s-i-n-g whel i thought it was funny
CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP! I KNEW HE WOULD GET OFF! WAIT WTF ADMIRAL!
OMG….Good for the Admiral
Adama is going to fight with the President
Good question, Blue – what does happen to Baltar, now? Since he was found not guilty, does he have a legal claim to the presidency?
The old man helped him at go free
TO EARTH
Well.. so much for the love between Roslin and Adm Adama.
and now the cyclons… hehe
So much for the potential love affair…
cylons r gonna vmoe
noce animation
High speed action from now on!
cylon attack
Oh Craaaaap
Ut oh!
NOOOOOOOOOOOO that ships are dead
the jump set and EMP and now they are drifting
boom boom…out went the lights
So, is it now that the Cylon fleet will appear being led by a familiar pilot?
to 500 posts!!!
That was some of the best ship cgi in a season
Roslin acted like she was hit by an EMP and rebooted like a cylon, crrraaapppppp
I love ROMO – still one of the best BSG characters ever. I know someone said he has signed on for Bionic Woman – wish he was in line for Caprica. He would be awsome to see every week.
What the hell is going on?
That would be one Craaaaaaaaaaapping twist Steve B
The Cylons could lose power too.
Wow, it’s going to suck if the ships start bouncing off each other… craaaaaap.
Bill! You really did get Baltar off. Ahh!
Alright folks, last 12 minutes or so of BSG for a long time. Still have to have someone find Earth and we discover a Cylon (or 5).
Renegadr nice your totaly right
that was the “best ship cgi” ever
I think Baltar is going to be in more of a prison now that he’s free… he’s going to have to look over his shoulder at every moment. Where’s he going to go, Zarek’s old prison ship?
Saberhawk’s right…we need a heartfelt “CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP” from Tigh right about now. It would’ve been cool if when we saw the fleet lose power and start drifting we heard Tigh in the background saying “craaaaap”…
and now for something different.
Does anyone think the cane was Grandfather Adama’s cane
it says on sciFi.com all 5
Where’s Racetrack, 13th Cylon? Bet she’s already parked in traffic outside NYC…
extra3 mins at end of ep. toinght
You know, I was just thinking that Chuck.
Like Cavatar and you said, now that Baltar has been exonerated of his New Caprica charges, can he legally challenge Roslin for the Presidency? Although practically speaking, he’d NEVER become President after what happened on New Caprica, he might still reclaim the Presidency from that legal technicality.
I think Baltar may move towards the Jesus thing and start a religious faction. He’s already got the look and some followers and he believes (or did at once) in the Cylon god.
I can’t keep up with these comments guys! Wow, this is just so intense. EMP! OH NO!
Now would be a good time to kill Baltar
I think that despite the explosion, he didn’t need the cane. He may be a cylon.
creepy Baltar followers
13th Cylon, I think you’re right about the jesus thing
here comes the final five!!!
I thought they were gonna put Caprica 6 on the stand.
Jesus Baltar. THE FINAL FIVE!! OH BOY. DAMN!
Dan, its good to see someone is reading my posts…lol
I knew it was Hendrix
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME!
It is in the frakin ship! How did he get out of his loony box anyways?
oh ccccrrrraaapppppp, they are cylons
If Chief is a Cylon I’m going to be so fracking pissed
Watchtower
They’re HEARING HENDRIX!!!!
wow
The Rolling Stones are Cylons!
somebody barfing, I bet they have implants.
Saul, Anders, Chief and Tori.. and BALTAR??
Oh craaaaap they are singing all along the watchtower!
Its a loony party ladies and gentlemen.
jimi hendrix, yeah baby!
Oops
Okay, this is some crazy crap happening!
yet those four were the one who fought the cylons on NC, the chief already knew ever since the beginning
mi crying hones t o god
Starbuck!
Wow… Tigh a Cylon?
IS IT ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER!!! HAHAHA
noooooooo…
Guys…three of them were part of the “Circle” when they got off of new caperica
All along the watchtower? Why? I love the Hendrix version more.
sorry 40 gesus
here comes Tighs speech
tinught Boxy cries himself to sleep
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
um…k…no they better not be!
I told you it was the chief.. and I told you we had a second hybrid
What is this craaaaaaaaaaaap? What about Nicky?
I don’t think so. The music is a marker. They just mind fraked themselves.
DO NOT WANT
CLIFFHANMGAR
Never jump to conclusions…
o damn tigh
good song
who saw the watercooler
Good for Tigh!!!
Did Baltar hear the music?
Where the hell would Cylons get Hendricks.
I called Tigh from the moment he was returned to “general population”
They’re not cylons. This is something else. A decoy or something else to keep the focus away from (for example) from whoever coordinated the power outage. What do you think?
Go get ‘em Tigh!
cally wow dude lee STARBUCK IS COMMING I CAN FEL IT
Lee goes to war wearing Brooks Brothers…
i guess lees back in the army
Torrie a cylon. This keeps with the all Cylon women are hot rule!
*laughs at Rube’s comment* Women go crazy for a sharp dressed man.
Okay, Sean, if you’re reading this….HERE COMES SOME VIPER ACTION, JUST FOR YOU!
WOW Cool Sequence! APOLLO YAY!
I still don’t like Tori
baby its starbuck o god
Lee’s going to find Starbuck.
is the unknown starbuck…does lee find earth?
I can’t wait for the conversation with Cally and Chief…guess what honey I am a cylon and Nicky is a hylon
Whoah! Good thing they got renewed. Had the show ended on this I would need therapy.
Hello Starbuck.. in the stealth ship
Dont die Apollo!
To keep important people away from their jobs when the attack happens?
Jayne Cobb-are you saying this is a copy of Tigh – not the real Tigh? I don’t get why you would think he was a Cylon after he was returned to the general population.
Starbuck????
I knew Lee would don the Colonial Navy’s uniform once again!
What is that? STARBUCK!! WHAT THE FRAK!!! AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Starbuck is leading Lee to Earth!
shit
HNOLY FUCK! STARBUCK!! AIKJHGLIAUJKGHOL”J!UOOJKMAAAASJHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Hell’s yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
STARBUCK FOUND EARTH!!! WHAT THE HELL!!
OMGOMGOGMGOGMg
tory seriously thats craaaaaaaaaaap what a waste of a spot if that is in fact the final 5
So do we know have head Starbuck?
TEN MONTHS! WE HAVE TO WAIT TEN MONTHS FOR THE REST OF THIS!
whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
CRAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Craaaaaap
AWESOME!!!!!
HOLY FRACK
what the frak?
Yeah!! There’s my girl!! She looked all glowy and stuff.
i know that planet omg
Man, STARBUCK! My TV-girlfriend is back… does this mean she’s a Cylon?
THAT WAS AWSOME! I’m totally freaking out right now! YES!!! Oh my gosh this is awesome!!!
Shes dead. Damn! They really did the orb of white light thing! The cheesiest part of the 78 series!
anyone know that song’s title and artist??? need to know
Starbuck, that is going to take some ‘splainin to do
So help me if they go to earth and find the statue of liberty on the sand and apes running around I will be mighty Frakked!
nooo ten months fralfrak
lol@Cav
Yeah, I feel the same way. Sometimes there’s so much going on in the posts that it’s hard to keep track of.
Oh, and 13th, some thoughts on the Jesus Baltar. I’m starting to agree with that theory. There are more and more similarities between Baltar and Biblical Jesus, and although I used to pass it off as just a coincidence, I’m starting to think it might be intentional.
All sorts of goosebumps!!
HOLY FRAK!!!
They showed earth. Not fair. WHAT’S GOING ON? These people have a lot to explain. That RDM podcast better be the best podcast, ever!
BEST EPISODE EVER!!!!!!
oh this podcast will rock tonight
Oh my God! I was on the floor jumping up and down! Stay tuned folks! Holy FRAKKK!
And ten frakking months ARGH!!! CRAAAAAAAPPP
there gonna fond it and its gonna be akn over by transformers goning to bed bye
Did anyone else wonder why there were six white glowing strips behind Six and Baltar. A clue…or a set director with OCD.
Is it gong to be like the 1980 Galactica where earth is primitive compared to galacitca?
They did not definitively show us the five cylons.
Does this mean Starbuck is a Cylon also?
Thanks the goda shes back or did lee die after splitting fom the fleet and went to where she is.
Well I’m totally going to watch the rerun in an hour. My brother watches it later in the week and he’s been complaing about why they killed Starbuck, well I can’t wait to talk to him after he’s seen it! OMG OMG! That was such a satisfying season ender. Man that was great.
Wahoooo…. good thing we know that they got renewed. But man it is going to be a long, long, long dry spell
This song is so totally going on my iPod
Hey what happened to 5 minutes over?
SO LONG!! LOL THE END CREDIT!
Is there a way that i can go to sleep and wake up when the show is back on?
Ahahahaha! Screw you David Eick and RD Moore!
Katee Sackhoff
STARBUCK!
Dan,
that is so true…it is hard to follow at time.
gotta love the music.
HOLY FRAKKING FRAK!
I need a cigarette and I don’t smoke!
Joe- I was cheering when they showed her, too. This was right up there with the Pegasus coming to save the day back at New Caprica. I even got a little teary eyed.
Ok, can anyone tell us what that song was? Is it a real song or did they make it for the episode?
Oh my gods…!
WTF just happened!?!?!? We have to wait till JANUARY 2008 for more BSG? (By the way, the “F” in WTF is for Frak).
WHo sang that version of Watchtower??? It was sweet.
I believe we have been misled. I do not believe we’ve seen the final 5 cylons… but Six has.
me too
Excellant. Let the pondering begin as to why the 7 never speak of the 5…..
Did everyone else notice that the nebula was revealed to be part of the Milky Way?
what the frak!!! Tigh, Tyrol, Anders, and the president’s aid all cylons; it can’t be true. Also, why is Anders a nugget with his broken leg. Wasn’t Starbuck grounded when she broke her leg?
Great way to wrap it up. Starbuck sounded so relaxed.. almost devine
well if someone was supposed to die ,be a cylon and find earth then kara can’t be a cylon if she is then she didn’t die unless there getting into semantics.
This was my first Frak party on here. It was fun to see all your comments. My wife says I am a dork but she is sitting here watching me type this. LOL. See ya all in 10 month FRAK ME!!! 10 Months Craaaaaaaaaaaaaapp!!!
Shaun, this was my first one too
I look forward to attending more…*WAIL* in 2008!
All Along the Watchtower? That’s so odd. That’s so modern. That must be a clue that they are indeed in the future. Thousands of years in the future?
And Tigh is so totally the man or Cylon, whatever he is. He’s staying true to what he is.
Caleb- Starbuck was actually piloting, I think Anders was a backseat Dradis watcher for a Raptor.
Agree@Rich
All Along the Watchtower, heavy metal style, as Starbuck comes flying in her super-Viper-that-was-apparently-not-so-vaporized-after-all.
Perfect. Except for having to wait ten months… That’s not so perfect.
This was my first Frak party as well! Take heart though, there will be the 2 hour made for TV/DVD movie in the fall to give us a small fix!
Yea I have listened to the podcast all season. Does anyone know when season 3 DVD will be released?
i just recently found the show for the second part of season 3 and then they go and do this to me frak i’m gonna be in serious withdrawal
the Final “four” said that they are cylons, but that just their idea, they might not be the final 5, they could be just freakin out, its not official
She might actually be dead guys. Like She could be a vision, or like a ghost.
Shaun- the season 3 DVD will likely be released just before this movie or at the very end of the year. They like to release BSG about a month before the next season starts to get people talking and stuff.
Maybe there is something about Starbuck in the Scrolls of Pythia. Not that they have been mentioned in awhile
I’m pissed. This was like a throwaway season. Besides Malestrom and Crossroads II, this season was underwhelming. I still don’t know if any questions have truly been answered. How the hell are these guys Cylon? I want to know the backstory.
By the way, Tori is frakking hot!!!! I want to comb her hair and get her out of the cheap Ann Taylor suit.
The cylons are active tonight my BSG podcast commentary has gone missing off of my Itunes and IPOD-CRAAAAPPPP!!! Goign to look for All along the watchtower after I reload the RDM commentaries!
i still like the idea posted earlier head starbuck
I guess Earth might be closer than what they though. I felt Kara would be back but this is just crazy. So we have sorta 4 cylons confirmed… could Kara be one?
Roslin connects with Six, Era and Athena because she was injected with baby Era’s blood (my guess).
Was the shutdown caused by the Cylons or is it related to Saul, Tyral, Anders and President’s aid?
I cheked VideoETA yesterday and there is no date for season 3 yet. It has an email alert you can sign up for. Good site.
Awww, that really sucks. I have watched my season 1 and 2 dvds so often they are starting to scratch. JK
the withdrawl was begun.
I don’t think she’s simply a vision.
Maybe it’s….HEAD STARBUCK!!!! LOL
Nah, Zack.
I agree she might be a vision or hallucination or something, but not a ghost or anything supernatural. It’s too unlike RDM to do something like that.
Boomer The Brother at least Anders or Lee didn’t find Starbuck with Boxey in the shower saying it was all a dream!
head Starbuck…awesome
I honestly do not think that Starbuck is a cylon. I think that when her viper exploded, she was so close to the core of that planet, that she was somehow transported (like a wormhole, or blackhole style even) to Earth, and her viper was sent with her. Lee saw her viper explode, but maybe that is just how the worhole theory worked. She also was sent Earth, BUT it is Earth in the 1960′s, and thus, will not provide ANY help to the fleet at all.
Nuggets are military in training.
Nice season end. There’s lots of story potential for next year. Where did Baltar’s harem take him? Will Callie plug Galen in a fit of pique? Why does 6 think Hera needs protection? How do they ‘splain Saul? Oh, the irony about him killing Ellen for collaborating w/Cylons. Still not happy that Sam is boffing Tori. Lee was good today. What will his next career be? Will he and Papadama make up and then be re-instated? Roslin is all pissed off at both Adama boys now, quite a killing glare. Delighted Kara is back, in some form. Apparently getting to Earth is coming soonish, which will be a whole ‘nother ball of wax. Still fresh, still lots of potential. Hope next year isn’t the last.
For now – I am holding the same thought I had earlier – which agrees with Renegade – I believe that there were implants put in on NC. I also think we are supposed to believe that Roslin is the 5th since she can project with six and Athena. Here again, I think this is suspect as she has Hera’s blood which could account for the projcetions.
Until someone wakes up in goo…..I am just not convinced. I think the writers are having a big laugh with this one……
Pike – when you get on and read this – I would be interested in your thoughts.
MY HEAD EXPLODED!!
BEST EPISODE EVER.
I’m blasting Hendrix right now.
AAAAARGH!!!!
2008?!?!?!? Damn them!!! Damn them to HELL!!!! (Well, they can go there after Season 4). I don’t know how I will survive…. Now all I have left is Heroes.
Even with the spoilers, this was one HELL of an episode. I was SO happy to see Starbuck. She looked… different.
Wow
I still think we are being pulled around as Mediator88 said, and that just because those four believe they are Cylons does not mean they actually are, and could have things implanted in them from the occupation, or some unexplained phenomenon via a third party as I’m sure 12 people voted for with their cell phones. Having only four also suggests that Starbuck is the fifth of the final five as well, but we’ll have to wait and see.
Does anyone else think Starbuck might be the 5th? Perhaps they were limited edition Cylonz and part of the reasons why the 7 couldn’t mention them. At least we know what her destiny was to do.
Were there spoilers saying Starbuck would be back? If so, THANK THE GODS I was spoiler free.
Hey if tyrol is a cylon, does that mean, that “his” baby is not his? But his wife looks so innocent. Or maybe it makes perfect sense, all that represed anger from the time he beat her…
What the… I’m going to have to watch that again just to make sure they are playing around with us to the extent I think they are.
Adama voted for Baltar? Everybody’s a Cylon? Lucid dreaming between Roslin and the Cylons? I’m all for cliffhangers, but this was a frak with our heads special. I loved Starbuck and threw things at the TV when she died, but it’s too soon. Don’t show me ten seconds of her and then not say a word for ten months. That’s just cruel.
My head is spinning. I cant wait for the podcast and then watching this episode about 3 more times this week. This was first frak party. I should never have looked away from the TV. Something was always happening.
Who sung that cover of Watchtower??????
I think she may be the 5th, but I hope she’s not.
And was I the only one thinking that she’d fly above him, upside down?
Wow.
That last fifteen minutes or so was so creepy. And I’m way too nervous to scan through all the posts before mine. But I’ve gotta talk about the return of the Buck.
The scene with Lee was so similar to her chase after the Heavy Raider that I’m really reluctant to pass judgment. In what capacity is she back?
KS’s name at the end credits kind of freaked me out because it was so big and alone and she was credited “as Starbuck” which seems very guest star esque but could also have been their attempt to be like “She’s back!!!”
I don’t know about all this but I guess we’ll all have ample time to cogitate.
The episode was pretty tight but I really wish the trial had been cut down. And Lee’s speech, while impassioned, belonged in closing arguments. It was not in any way, shape or form a testimony.
Aside from that though, the episode had me so tense. And I’m really gonna have to think about the Roslin/SHaron/6/Hera Quad of Doom part deux.
Loved: Tigh channeling Keanu. “Whooooooaaaa”- Better than “crraaaaappp”
Oh, and Chuck, Sean and Audra?? Don’t feel constrained to 1 hour! This is worth at least 2, eh????
Agreed…Starbuck was different, not so weighed down
I think three hours at least!
Dylan’s All Along the Watchtower, not Hendrix. Hendrix only covered the song – although Dylan considered Hendrix’s interpretation the definitive version.
I was waiting for her to pull a “Top Gun” too
If they had a beacon that killed the other cylons, they might as well have a different beacon that does something else. Also, I wonder if anyone else could see Kara, or will she be in Lee’s head from here on. I wonder if Leoben knows she is talking to Lee again. That may just escalate the cylon/human conflict to a completely, more messy level.
Ok, so everyone is making a big fuss over Hera because she’s a half human half cylon… What about Nicky? He’s one too! What’s so special about Hera?
So many, many, many questions.
Starbuck is Head Starbuck. Just like there is no explanation for the two other head people, there is not yet an explanation for Starbuck.
Does anyone else feel they are getting no sleep tonight?
Does that make Chief’s baby a Cylon too?? Has anybody considered that? So that means there is another Hera….Nicky is a special baby as well!
That was Dylan’s version?
Are you sure?
This should get a miniseries podcast!
Imagine the cylon men complaining how the humans males are taking our women.
First time poster-hey Joe…it’s a Bob Dylan song called “All along the Watchtower”. Many people have covered it, with the most popular version being the one done by Hendrix. I have no earthly idea who did this version-it kinda sucked, but I really love the fact they used this song at least for the lyrics
Hahaha, Carol. I thought she would fly above him upside down too!
No. I meant only to say that people forget Dylan wrote the song – just to give credit where credit is due. The song was definitely not sung by Dylan
So does anyone know who’s cover of the song that was?
Ah, thanks for the clarification kitten. I loved it too. I have Jimmie’s version on my iPod already, guess I’ll get a few more.
You know All Along The Watchtower is going to be in the top 10 on itunes tomorrow.
For all itunes fanatics, download All Along the Watchtower by Bob Dylan!
I’m sure that it’s something to do with Bear McCreary or his Oingo Bingo mates. Hopefully it’ll be on the Season 3 soundtrack.
So who sings this version tonight?
bob Dylan rules the world
My theory…comes next season, there will be no fight scene. Those cylons following them will likely be copies of the ones on the ship, and are looking to join them on the road to earth. Can’t wait for a good cylon-bad cylon dog fight. Imagine the skies littlered with them, millions maybe, all fighting each other.
And yes, the CGI last episode and this one have been amazing.
IF, and it still is a big if to me…Chief is a cylon – then yes, nicky would be a Hylon.
Chuck, Audra, Sean – you simply have to explore the “what if the writers are fracking with us” theory.
I would have readily believed it if they appeared in the opera house in their white robes or awakened in goo. This just all seems to suspect to me. Perhaps I am just to cynical.
I still can’t get over the feeling that the fleet is not being chased but is being corraled…like they are being pushed towards Earth.
I have an idea what if the power outage in the fleet happened because they hit an early warning defensive line for the 13th colony. I you think about it the members of the 13th colony had to of had more advance technology then the other colonies to be able to travel so far away from the other colonies. And one more thing why was there the Ceylon fleet in the last episode and nothing in this one was it just a head faint from the writers to keep us thinking.
Re-watching episode now.. but one thought comes to mind as I think about Lee charging off to check out the dradus contact on his “10″. Did that same contact show up in Galactica’s CIC?
The case for a “Head Starbuck” would be made real quick if Kara’s viper didn’t show up in CIC.
She did look very at peace with herself in her Mark II viper..
Will we ever find out if the Cylonz have a plan? That’s the real question.
i dont think tigh, tori, anders, and chief are cylons. i think they may be hearing signal from earth. i think they are all going crazy from stress and they are using the “I’m a cylon” bit to explain why they are going insane.
Starbuck:
here are two possible thoughts-
1. She is dead and Lee saw her in a vision
2. When Starbuck blew up, she really didn’t, she entered some kind of black hole which caused it to look like she blew up…so she went on to find earth, which was her destiny, and now she is back to lead them
Just before they showed earth, did you notice that they are somewhere near the center of the milky way Galaxy? They also showed what I think is the right location of the solar system and earth in modern time, which is in one of the spirals. Interesting. I wonder if they’re clues there…
Now that you mention it, I think I’m a cylon too…
So does this mean that Bob Dylan is the Cylon god?
I am not exactly sold either, Saberhawk, it is just too easy. But if they are Cylons then they are in perfect position to seriously compromise the fleet. Chief is the engineer and works on the Vipers…Tori advises the president…Tigh is the trusted friend of the admiral…not really sure what Anders does though
What if Earth is responsible for the Cylon?
possibly Rich, but Earth’s solar system has been in the same area of the Milky Way for a very long time. The galaxy takes about 250 million years to spin once. So even if it was 10,000 years ago, it would be pretty much the same place.
But I’m sure there are a lot of clues in the quick scene. Hense, I’m now Jealous of everyone with TiVo.
So now we know Starbuck’s destiny-show them the way to earth.
Devo, I think Anders was Kara bait. They’ve been saying for 3 years how important she is, and Anders was a way to get someone close to her.
We need you guys to talk unitl your throats bleed on the podcast. Why was Starbuck “unknown”? Do you think the chief is really going to tell his wife about the final meeting?
Don’t discount the VCR. That’s the ticket. Low tech needs for quality scrutinizing
I’m glad to see the series take this direction. It was a very satisfying closure to the third season. I’ve read a post on here a few weeks ago, and how the final five cylons are supposed to support the humans so that they do reach earth and rebuild relations with the cylons. But over all I’ve been very impressed with this finale’, I was very skeptical and began to lose faith in the series, but I stand corrected.
To answer a previous question, the spoilers I read did mention that Starbuck would be back at the end of this episode.
Is it me, or is anyone else thinking that LAURA is the fifth Cylon? She’s the one having Bluetooth dreams with Six and Sharon. The only person in the dream who’s NOT on the dream party line is Baltar. Starbuck is something different… Kinda like Dave in “2001″ and “2010″ after going