Yesterday and today I’ve exchanged some really informative email with some listeners, and it seems to me that I didn’t do a very good job of explaining why I was disappointed with Adama this week. I hope you’ll forgive me — I’ve had some other things on my mind, and you can probably hear that both Audra and I sound a little different than usual in the ‘cast — and give this a read as I try to share with you some of the thoughts I shared in email.
As many have commented and emailed, I totally agree that the Chief was legally out of line for his actions in calling a strike among the hands on Galactica. Whether he’s justified morally in what he did is open to argument — and right now I’m not sure exactly which side of the argument I’d eventually fall on — but there’s no doubt that Adama’s legally justified in pressuring him and even shooting him. I’ve even seen good evidence to support him legally in shooting Callie.
My disappointment didn’t stem from Adama’s reaction at the end of the episode, but from what happened before the strike — and really even before the episode began. I’m diasppointed in him for letting things get as bad as they did, putting those under him in the position of doing what they did — wrong though it was — to get his attention. In the past I’ve seen him inspire those around him to do what they need to do – even if they don’t agree — through strong leadership. He’s always seemed in touch with the ships and people under his command — at least enough to handle problems like this before they come to a head.
My father was a Major in the Air Force — and he was my moral compass. In my experience, he was a good leader, and I often remember his advice when faced with this kind of situation. He told me, “One doesn’t manage people. One manages things. One leads people.”
To me as a child, this meant that even though he had the authority (and the force to back it up) to simply command me to do anything he felt was appropriate, he often chose to explain things to me; specifically, he took the time in situations that weren’t yet critical to offer me the ability to see the nature of his decisions.Â
For example, rather than telling me “Don’t take your shoes off in the yard,” he’d say, “Son, I wouldn’t take your shoes off in the yard. Your Mom’ll make you wash your feet before you come in.” It wasn’t an order, so he didn’t have to punish me if I didn’t obey. Failing to comply also didn’t injure me — it simply inconvenienced me. Of course, I didn’t always do it, and I ended up having to wash my feet. My father, however, earned additional respect.
When one day my father simply said to me, “Don’t do that,” I didn’t — not just because he could make me –Â he could –Â but because I believed in him and respected his position of authority.
While Adama was justified in his reaction at the end, he failed to honor his responsibility as leader of the fleet to 1) pay attention to and correct early situations that might threaten the supply of needed goods such as tyllium and 2) to act in leadership issues before they reach a point where the only solution is to do something so extreme that it will forever damage the source of his ability to command: respect and trust.Â
His dismissiveness of the workers’ concerns and subsequent portrayal of them as clueless civilians that don’t understand the importance of what they do doesn’t jive with what we saw: a group of people who work well beyond what’s healthy for them and even began to voluntarily train their children to do their job when they die. Even the “12-year-old” seemed proud to do his job and proud of its importance to the fleet. These are people who will follow when lead.
What’s more, the workers seemed to be concerned less about their own comfort than that the current production schedule could lead to a total loss of the refinery — which would prove far more dangerous to the fleet than a temporary outage. Imagine this ending: Right after Tyrol’s happy-ending meeting with the president, the tyllium refinery ship explodes from damaged equipment or tired-worker-negligence. The Cylons show up. The end.
My father also always said that “accidents” rarely result from a single error, bet rather from a chain of errors. (He was talking about aircraft accidents, but I think it applies to the outcome here, too.) Consider this:
Link 1: We know that the civilian workers had explained this reasonably through appropriate channels for some time, and we saw Adama and the president ignore them. If Rosma (Adamlin?) had taken their concerns seriously and looked into them, they could have determined if a) the workers concerns were valid (and formed a plan to work out the problems to keep tyllium supply coming without risking the refinery) or b) the workers were simply balking because they were tired (and visited them or otherwise lead them to see the importance of their work). Either way, problem averted.
Link 2: When the Chief returned to Galactica after the stoppage and beat the location of the seals out of the two instigators, Adama could have punished the two and sent the Chief back to address the concerns. He would have enforced his orders, yet avoided the nastiness at the end of the episode.
Link 3: In the end he could have threatened the Chief himself — even shot him if necessary — and likely have achieved the same results. I have to admit that I’m with Sean here: my family takes precedence above anything else, including the survival of the human race. Maybe I’m messed up, but it’s true. If Adama had threatened my family, I’d never trust him again. Ever.
I guess what I’m trying to get across is that I’m not objecting to Adama’s threat against Callie, but rather that I’m disappointed that he let it come to that. The fleet — and even we as fans — expect more of him. We trust that he’ll take better care of us and spare us that kind of ugliness. It’s a big responsibility — almost too big for any one person to bear.Â
But as they say in Star Trek: That’s what happens when you sit in the big chair.
This week’s show title, “Dirty Hands” applied to both the workers on the tillium refinery ship and to Adama and Roslin. Highlights: We wonder why Adama’s legendary leadership skills (and Roslin’s insight) take a vacation this episode, speculate about life through the eyes of the civilian fleet, question whether Tyrol will ever trust Adama again, and suggest taking up a collection to bribe Ron Moore to put Tory to work shoveling tillium.
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We won’t be able to get the podcast out tonight because we weren’t able to watch the episode.
About 10 minutes before the episode was to begin, our cat Zach had a heart attack. He was laying on the bed with us, then suddenly jumped up and fell on the floor. He stopped breathing and his heart stopped. We called the vet and performed CPR per their directions. I drove him to the emergency vet while Audra continued to perform CPR. We got there in about 15 minutes, but they weren’t able to help him.
Zach came to Audra and I about four-and-a-half years ago. Though he was scared — and has always been afraid of people — he came up to us outside our apartment door and meowed. We took him in, got his medical needs taken care of, and looked for a new home for him. But within a few weeks, we knew we’d found his home — with us.
Zach was my friend, and that was a big deal. He was very careful in choosing his friends. While he wasn’t unfriendly, he didn’t trust many people. I’m proud to say that he trusted me. He wouldn’t stay in the same room with me without hiding when we first met, but over the years he allowed me to pet him, and in the last year he even kneaded my belly a few times and sometimes slept beside me.
The picture above was taken back in our old apartment about a year after he joined our family.
I’m sorry, but as much as I love BSG, I can’t bring myself to do anything tonight. I’m looking at his little empty bed and wondering if I’ll be ok someday. I love him very much.
We’ll try and watch the episode in the next few days and get the podcast out.
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PS: As a guy who does get out of the office and into the shop from time to time, I suspect I’m going to like tonight’s episode. I feel for the Chief and all those who do the “dirty work” on a day-to-day basis throughout the fleet. I love that we’re seeing a feature about them, and I hope they get a fair shake.
“A Day in the Life” reminded us of why we love the show — and its great characters — so much. Highlights: We address Adama’s “projections,” respect BSG’s honest and realistic approach to divorce, wonder what Mrs. Adama must have been like if whining Lee thinks she’s “unstable,” speculate again on what kind of trial Baltar’ll get, and laugh at Hotdog’s “rash.” We also put some thought into what’d drive the Tyrol family to revolt next week — guessing that it might have something to do with the miserable state of the civilian fleet.
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BSG Government: Options Beyond Democracy and Monarchy
In the last podcast we lamented the sorry state of the civilian fleet in BSG — the fact that every time we hear about them they’re involved in some kind of mob-like behavior like rioting, selling each other’s children, or electing Baltar president.Â
Like Kay said in MIB, “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.” And, as BSG showed, when you allow a bunch of “dumb, panicky, dangerous animals” to make decisions directly, bad things happen. On the other hand, there’ll come a point when Roslin will run out of ideas — or simply be wrong – and the fleet’ll have to come to terms with the woman king. (In fact, maybe we’ve already arrived at that point; while Baltar’s the supergenious we all love to hate, I’m not sure Roslin’s quick use of drugs in his interrogation are going to prove the best decision for the fleet — espcially considering the upcoming trial.)
Certainly a number of you have picked up on this as well.
Listener Rorlins commented:
“What’s interesting is that we are beat over the head time and time again about how perfect democracy is, but for whatever reason the people at BSG want to show us that democracy is flawed, and very much so. You see the rise of the ‘mob menality’ you mentioned. You see demagogues (I get that spelled right?) like Baltar being elected. They are making strong commentary on the need (as you said) for checks and balances, and the merits/ flaws of benevolant dictatorship.”
While I agree that the writers are showing us the dirty bottom side of democracy, I can’t help but wonder if the message they’re trying get across is less the simple fact that democracy (and conversely benevolant dictatorship) are flawed than the more complex and hard-to-grasp-for-some fact that governments that revere pure democracy — to the point that they see it as an all-powerful force of good – often lead people down the primrose path. In fact, it’s not democracy that we revere as much as a basic representative government — which realistically often takes the form of a representative democracy or the more generic republic.Â
It seems, though, that rather than considering these other governmental processes, the fleet’s leaders just keep pogoing between taking fleet-wide votes and dismissing the democratic process altogether.Â
I’m not suggesting that Roslin should step down, nor that she should even have to stand election. As Joe commented:
“To expect the fleet to live ordinary lives as a democratic government when they are being attacked by Cylons every week or so is a bit silly.  Life in the fleet is tough! Who has time to worry about how democratic their government is? Don’t forget, everyone is still eating algae. Not to mention that everyone lives in pressurized vessels floating through space.”
Maybe Roslin should stay in power, more like the “president for life” that exist in some republics. I am suggesting, however, that at some point the people have to understand what kind of government they actually have and how they can participate in it. Then it might be possible for them to do something other than riot for food and fill Galactica’s flight decks.
It seems as though BSG’s government in the past was some form of representative democracy, as demonstrated by the Quorum. (Clearly, though, RDM & Co. aren’t too fond of the Quorum, either. Their role in the past few seasons hasn’t risen much above that of the civilian fleet.) But could the failure of the Quorum simply lie in its small size or its method of selection?
Either way, the fleet needs a real government. What do you think?
Surprise, surprise: it was “The Woman, King” and not “The Woman King” – and the first Helo-centric episode in some time. Highlights: We discuss Helo’s moral compass vs. his inexperience as an officer, delight in the re-appearance of Head Baltar, question Caprica Six’s desire to be human, and wonder just exactly what it really takes to shake Tigh’s confidence nowadays.
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I found another cool BSG fan video on the ‘net and thought I’d share. This one is a video montage/remix of the episode Downloaded set to the Jay-Z/Linkin Park mashup Numb/Encore. Sweeet.
(Warning: It’s got some language in it — the song’s uncensored.)
We’ve talked about this numerous times in past podcasts, and a few listeners and readers have commented about it again recently: Laura Roslin has never actually been elected president.
She entered the presidency via the mass death of those ahead of her in the chain, and her second stint came about via a “back room deal” with then-V.P.-turned-President-maybe Tom Zarek. Some readers have recently brought up the possibility that Zarek never actually took the office of President as Baltar wasn’t dead. (Personally, I suspect that there are any number of possible ways to explain away this trap legally, but the possibility does exist.)
I thought it might be fun to open a thread (like the one on Baltar’s trial below) for everyone to jump in and discuss this. While I believe that Roslin can likely make a reasonable claim to her office, it still bothers me — quite a bit, actually — that the natural president of hte colonies has never been elected.
What do you think?
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If you’re not familiar with Digg, it’s a link-recommendation site where users submit links and “vote” on them by “digging” the ones that they, um, “dig.” Links that receive a lot of “diggs” (or a fair number in a short time) find their way to Digg’s front page — and into their RSS feed.
Regardless of whether you feel like submitting any of GWC’s content to Digg, you might want to give the site a look if you’re not familiar. One warning, though: It’s oddly addicting. Sure, a lot of what you see is junk, but after a while you find yourself zipping through the RSS feed every few days looking for the cream of the crop.
If you are a “Digg” user — registration is free — and you enjoy the podcast, we’d appreciate it if you’d take a minute to click on the “Digg It” link in the right sidebar under “Digg GWC!” Many people find new podcasts via Digg’s listing, and right now GWC’s pretty buried since there are so many there.
Anyway, sorry for the non-BSG content, but since I saw a few comments regarding the new buttons, I thought I’d explain.
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